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Discussion in 'Newcastle United' started by RobEllious, Mar 30, 2020.

  1. Sheikh_of_Araby

    Sheikh_of_Araby Well-Known Member

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    Separation of PIF is subjective. I believe them to be separate. You believe it. Nick De Marco QC. Boris Johnson. Michael Ellis QC (the Attorney General) believes them separate.

    Richard Masters and the PL's legal team don't. The arbitration panel will decide that based on the evidence and their subjective opinion becomes a legal fact. The test they apply creates a precedent for any future ODT applications by a sovereign wealth fund.

    We won't hear the evidence. That includes any potential evidence of wrongdoing. NUFC's legal team tried to make the arbitration hearing public by going to the High Court ( a superior court) and failed.

    The CAT tribunal is public. All evidence is public unless directions issued by the chair to make all or parts confidential. It is that which is terrifying the PL. They are trying to get CAT thrown out on a technicality. You then have to ask the question as to why, if they have nothing to hide, are they trying their best to keep things private.

    Public interest dictates that there should be transparency so that there is public confidence. NUFC will be using that argument.
     
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  2. Prince Isak (GG)

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    I accept all this but the actual arbitration is purely based on the separation issue. Therefore there can’t be any wrongdoing by the PL solely on the point of separation.

    How they got to that point and the argument of separation and the events that lead up to it are therefore not in question and won’t form part of the arbitration. Or will it?

    In simple terms and for the ARB. The “only” question is “are they legally separate? PIF and the state/MBS. On this point alone there cannot be any information the PL need to be worried about.

    The CAT is completely different.
     
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  3. Prince Isak (GG)

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    In addition to what I have just written. Could it be that the CAT case isn’t just an issue of protection for the PL. It also and probably more importantly implicates the big six and BEIN.

    The consequences of that are absolutely monumental and could be catastrophic for all involved.

    Taking it a step further the CAT case would potentially create, if in the public eye, a separate legal challenge because of the evidence to be released for the lost income claim.

    The CAT case isn’t this just a parting shot but an actual nuclear bomb. Dropped by MA!
     
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  4. Prince Isak (GG)

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    Effectively playing the “come on lads we all
    Don’t need this” card.

    Let’s just get along right? No? Ok I press that big red button.
     
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  5. Rex Kramer

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    It'll get thrown out
     
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  6. Sheikh_of_Araby

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    No it won't. CAT take claims of anti competition very seriously.
     
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  7. Sheikh_of_Araby

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    It is exactly this. It is about to rip football apart.
     
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  8. Rex Kramer

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    Yeah but unfortunately nobody outside Newcastle wants this to happen.

    Some **** that supports another club will just say **** them
     
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  9. Rex Kramer

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    I have concluded that nobody cares about the corruption in this particular case. The rest of football is just delighted they're stopping it and couldn't care less how they did it
     
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  10. magpie290761

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    I would have thought that if there has been corruption then the fans of 14+ clubs would definitely want this exposed.
     
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  11. Albert's Chip Shop

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    Time in the 'big house' could follow some some if proven guilty. It really is that serious.
     
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  12. Rex Kramer

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    Tbh I suspect its not just 6 clubs that don't like the idea
     
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  13. Rex Kramer

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    I doubt anything will come from it mate..
     
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    Guess what....???



    IT'S HAPPENING..!<cheers>
     
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  15. Sheikh_of_Araby

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    If CMA get involved it is very serious. If it goes to CAT they will monitor the outcome.
     
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    Last page
     
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  18. Rex Kramer

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    It'll be bran van 3000 and we'll still be on here
     
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