Off Topic The Environmental & Pollution Thread

Surely 000s of vegans= zero?

 

Not the same photo but a perfect example of the disingenuous bollocks used to ridicule climate concerns.
https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-glastonbury-greta-idUSL1N2YE1JD

 

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/gallery/huge-glastonbury-clean-up-begins-27335005

 

As you can see it was indeed taken at this year's festival. A perfect example of the disingenuous bollocks from the so called environmentalists attending the event.

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Not a good look at all but also not representative of all festival goers or those with climate concerns. Media in general less than balanced in their reporting. This article. albeit from 2017, shows some of the reuse possibilities of abandoned tents and camping gear. https://www.somersetlive.co.uk/whats-on/music-nightlife/what-happens-tents-left-behind-56851 . Bit more here on this years event https://www.somersetlive.co.uk/what...oola&utm_medium=display&utm_campaign=exchange and this is the festival waste policy https://www.somersetlive.co.uk/what...oola&utm_medium=display&utm_campaign=exchange

 

So all attendees are environmentalists who dumped rubbish and left their tents? A inference worthy of the Mail at it's worse spouting disingenuous bollocks for the deluded and gullible climate change deniers.

 

Exactly. I haven’t been to the festival for 10 years, but as a veteran who worked there for many years, I can confirm that every year there is a fresh intake of clueless 18 year olds fresh from their A levels, urgently taking every chance to abuse their bodies with no thought for the land. The vast army of staff, on the other hand, both volunteers and waged, who struggle to keep pace not only with the littering, but with the seeming inability to use a toilet hygienically, represent some of the best among us. Thousands remain afterwards, sometimes for weeks, earning minimal wages plus meals to return the land to its proper agricultural purpose. And don’t even get me started on the tents, which are often left in place for someone else to deal with, complete with a fresh morning dump left inside.

It’s laughable to class all festival goers either as environmentalists or as despoilers of the land, there is quite obviously a vast range of types of people attending such a gathering. Worthy Farm effectively becomes for a few days a city with the population of Southampton, with more than its quota of twats.

 

Climate crisis is fake news

 

Well said, a balanced view from someone with extensive experience.

 

Phishing alert.

 

Ah, the old Daily Mail reference has shown it's face again I see. If you can't argue a point properly just throw in the DM in an attempt to discredit someone else's point of view.

Firstly you said the picture wasn't at Glastonbury and inferred it was from a different year. Wrong on both cases.

Nowhere in these comments is climate concern ridiculed or climate change denied.

No-one has said all attendees are environmentalists but when Greta Thunberg spoke (from the pyramid stage where the clean up pictures concentrated on) "Her appearance was warmly received by the crowd, who joined her in a chant of "climate justice" at the end of her speech."

The original post wasn't to discredit climate change beliefs but to highlight hypocrisy amongst the audience. Even if the hypocrisy is ignored, they are still lazy litter louts who leave it to others to clean up after them.

This is from 2019 but nothing seems to have changed despite it being their No1 priority.
https://www.yorkpress.co.uk/leisure...ing-environmental-impact-number-one-priority/

 

Just stop it.

 

Good point, I was wondering what you were basing your comments on.

 

Nothing to disagree about there, pretty much what I said. But not all festival goers were being classed as environmentalists just that on one hand many were applauding and chanting along with GT and on the other throwing their litter down where they stood.

 

Not defending them at all, but as I said many of those people would have been experiencing Glasto for the first time, and being charitable, might not have been thinking too clearly about the consequences of their own actions.

 

A thought on the onsite recycling center where waste is sorted by volunteers who earn their festival ticket. Probably better done at a centralised location under controlled conditions. The tent abandoning needs to be addressed along with the other concerns. If there were easy answers we wouldn't be having this discussion.

 

The Mail reference is valid as far as I'm concerned given the broad brush of your original post. It's some of the audience not all by any means but you did know that. It's best left with Chilcs well balanced post.

 

There's an automated weather station in Southampton. Previous record (since 2008) was 33.7, recorded in 2022. We've managed 34 today. What a result!