The FFP thread

What FFP issues..??

 

The ones you get when you spend more than your income over a 3 year period.

 

What does that have to do with the transfer of a player where we haven't done that over the last 3 years?

 

Because its a rolling 3 years. Deals done now can put us over the limit in 3 years.

 

I think you're missing the point of my question.

We could spend 200m this window and so long as we balance the books over the next two years, FFP means **** all. To suggest we have a 'problem' we need to solve this window is complete rubbish.

 

We do if we sign 2, 3,4 year contracts which take us over the limit, without means to generate the income to offset it.

I have said for a while I think you're underestimating what Acun is spending.

 

There is no single year limit. I'm not underestimating anything, you're not understanding how FFP works. As you yourself said, it's a rolling measure, meaning there's no cap in a single year. Again, we could spend 200m in this window signing everyone to 10 year contracts, there is no breach of FFP until the clock strikes 12 in that third year and we're over the three year measure. How do you think QPR, Villa and others got away with their spending to win promotion? And why clubs like Derby would spend two years going all out for promotion and then in the third year enact a fire sale to balance the books?

 

We can lose 39m max in any 3 year rolling period. Maybe we're trying to avoid a Derby like situation and inevitable fire sale in a couple of years, where we lose even more value on players and FFP losses spiral.

 

Now you're getting it.. 39m loss in 3 years. Can you let me know how much we've lost over the last two years combined? As the answer is - we haven't lost anything net over those two years - the original question is asked again.. What FFP issues would be preventing this signing? And the answer is: none. The bloke tweeting that has no idea what he's on about.

 

I'm not just getting anything. I've been posting the same all last week.

 

I give up. Someone else explain it to him.

 

Syd.

We made a profit 2 years ago, we made a loss last year which over the 2 years was a net profit but that profit comes off the allowance next year once it falls out of the rolling period . We could be be fine this year and struggle next to stay within limit as the profit from then won't count towards spending cap once its outside the rolling period.

Besides if we were only reinvesting the KLP money FFP would not be an issue as it would only be income we were spending so count as net zero. The fact it is suggests to me that Acun is looking to invest to the legal limit.

Baz has mentioned FFP as a consideration. Now its resurfaced today as holding the latest signing up while they find a permissible workaround apparently and you're still refusing to accept it is a consideration.

 

I think he just has to post and doesn’t know what he’s posting Syd but he’ll try and put you down and get a few morons to like his post means he’s right.

 

Keep an eye on the FFP thing as it unfolds.

Because you don't understand the implications of 'any 3 year rolling period' at a time we're handing out much larger contracts over a 3/4 year period doesn't mean none of us do.

And opposing another posters pov is not putting anyone down. Getting personal is what you do on here more than anyone.

 

But the use of FFP in that tweet doesn't make any sense when you are talking about a single player

 

Who said you was a moron chazz?

 

It does and it doesn't. If that 2 year contract takes us over our limit once the 20/21 losses are no longer cancelled out by the 19/20 profit as it falls out of the 3 year rolling period then it can cause problems for FFP in coming years if we are over committed.

 

You’ve got a couple liking your post, Chazz.

 

Aye, the usual suspects.

 

The only way that would happen is if we are spending over 47m this season due to the 16m sale of KLP. Not even taking into account the increase in sponsorship revenue meaning we'd have to be spending over 50m this summer. Which we clearly aren't doing. It's rubbish.