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The January Striker Debate

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by Nordic, Feb 25, 2023.

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Will the club fail to make the playoffs as a result of not signing another striker in January

  1. Yes - it’s almost a criminal offence

    16 vote(s)
    18.0%
  2. No - I think we have enough to make top 6

    5 vote(s)
    5.6%
  3. Not too bothered - I like the way the club is developing and didn’t expect playoffs

    53 vote(s)
    59.6%
  4. I just want to complain about the club all the time, regardless

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  5. Other… please state

    6 vote(s)
    6.7%
  6. Yes, just yes

    9 vote(s)
    10.1%
  1. Nordic

    Nordic Well-Known Member

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    Hamish1973
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    and anyone else… fill your boots. here’s hoping you continue this fantastic debate as to the implications of not signing a replacement striker in January, bar Gelhardt on loan.

    Just imagine if we’d re-signed Simms
    Or
    What if LND didn’t get hit by the Prehab ‘don’t get injured’ curse. Or was it simply the fault of the manager having the gall to play him in a game of competitive football.
    Or
    What if we’d signed
    Connor Wickham
    Chris Martin
    Any ****er on two legs

    Let’s hear it…..
     
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  2. Sunderpitt

    Sunderpitt Well-Known Member

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    Cheers for the mention Nordic.

    Would it be helpful if I set up a poll, for the Happy Clappers?

    It could have a, 'everything in the garden is rosy' option, to a 'neglected allotment' and some others in between?
     
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  3. David Moyes' Stupid Face

    David Moyes' Stupid Face Well-Known Member

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    I selected "other". There should be a "yes but I don't blame the club" option.

    Everyone with half a brain knows the lack of striker option is hurting us. Unfortunately, those who don't have the other half seem to think the club should have magicked a 6'0+, 10+ goal a season, low wage, readily available in January, Championship-level striker out of thin air.
     
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  4. Flash Gordon

    Flash Gordon Well-Known Member

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    I've gone other. We're going to miss the playoffs because of the following reasons:

    1) no strikers
    2) not replacing Evans
    3) not signing experience in the summer and letting Alex Neil down
    4) appointing a Boro fan as manager in the first place who threw the first game against them.
    5) Gooch isn't a right back
    6) O'Nien isn't a centre back/midfielder
    7) Pritchard is leaving in January as his Mrs wants to move to London
    8) Dan Neil has no heart
    9) Michut is too small
    10) Amad was ****e at Rangers.
    11) the players were all ready to walk out because of Speakman

    Oh and of course the "Mowbray slump" which always happens at every club and is definitely his fault despite no-one being able to explain why it happens.

    I've probably missed some, I might come back and add more later.
     
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  5. rooch 3

    rooch 3 Well-Known Member

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    Get it set up mate, look forward to seeing the replies, <ok>
     
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  6. Sunderpitt

    Sunderpitt Well-Known Member

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    Tbh not sure how to do it...care to help?
     
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  7. rooch 3

    rooch 3 Well-Known Member

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    I’m more clueless than you mate <laugh><laugh> ask
    Nordic <ok>
     
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  8. Gordon Armstrong

    Gordon Armstrong Just another S.A.F.C. fan
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    Only Nodic or mods can change the poll, but there could be loads of options so it's probably best to just leave it . . . . 'cos there's a limit (of six, I think), too :emoticon-0148-yes:
     
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  9. rooch 3

    rooch 3 Well-Known Member

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    I think this was going to be a completely new poll, it wouldn’t interfere with Nordics.
     
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  10. FellTop

    FellTop Well-Known Member

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    No option that states there is still 12 games to go and we are still in with a shout?
     
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  11. Drugtester

    Drugtester Active Member

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    In the early 90’s Bob Murray didn’t understand the coming premier league, and thought it was ok to still be in division 2 as it was then. Now we are making the same error, due to fear of what happened when the chuckle bros ran us. Consolation is the cry, mid table is OK. No it isn’t,

    If we are serious about a play off spot we need an out of contract number 9 to give us 70 mins a game. I think the current top table aren’t that bothered about going up so we won’t. They are , however, missing an opportunity that may not happen again. This is a poor championship and if we are stuck in it, next year will be harder and there is no guarantee our recruitment will do as well again.

    With the Saudi blood money the mags will challenge if they don’t win anything and they might. If we aren’t in the premier league soon we risk losing more young fans from County Durham as we did in the 90’s.

    Don’t get me wrong I think the current leadship is heading in the right direction, I do, however, question their pace. We weren’t ever in danger of relegation unless they were incompetent.
     
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  12. TopCat_

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    My own take on this is that club have committed to a model and won't be swayed. They'd rather sign players who fit that model than just anyone.
    Maybe there was some naivety amongst Speakmann/KLD/Harvey in thinking that Simms would come back or that Stewart would be ok for the rest of the season, but I think slamming Speakmann for failing to replace Stewart at 2 days notice is very harsh - you don't replace what LND gives you without shelling out £20m.

    On the face of it, we've had absolutely rotten luck with injuries (and other teams having their own crisis) but I'd rather have Gelhardt then fill the squad with no hopers like Chris MArtin, Andy carroll or Will Keane
     
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  13. Random lad

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    I know I keep saying this , but not having at least 3 strikers in your team is daft, to have none at all is simply farcical
     
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  14. OldNewtown

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    Just out of interest what else do you think the owners should do between now and the end of the season to change your view
    Apart from getting a journeyman striker in of course
     
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  15. Random lad

    Random lad Well-Known Member

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    We did not sign a striker, the club made excuses, but it simply was not good enough.

    The manager has just said 'we went into the match without the tools to win the game'
    Also that 'if we had their striker , we would have won the game easily'
    He is calling out Speakman, make no mistake, and rightly so
    I really struggle to see how we did not sign at least one, ********* ridiculous
    At any level, you need a striker
     
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  16. HoratioCarter

    HoratioCarter Well-Known Member

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    When KLD took over he said he had a 5 year plan to reach the premier league, and he was prepared for one or two hiccups.I guess that so far he is possibly ahead of his plan
     
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  17. OldNewtown

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    Didn't Speakman say we were in for 5 strikers but couldn't get one over the line

    Well apart from Geldhart obviously
     
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  18. Drugtester

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    They are doing most things right, and given we looked better with a centre back up front, use our much vaunted recruitment system to find a journeyman
     
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  19. FellTop

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    Speakmans biggest mistake was Defoe. That was a terrible decision and plenty said that before he signed. LJ knew the craic. I would be very surprised, if in a club as well run as ours, he is not being challenged really hard on last minute strikers. God knows what Defoe cost and the impact on our FFP situation.
     
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  20. Drugtester

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    You seize opportunities, don’t wait for them,.
     
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