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Discussion in 'Manchester United' started by Treble, Feb 2, 2022.

  1. aberdude

    aberdude Well-Known Member

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    Think there’s still one of these left

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    The bible according to John :emoticon-0130-devil
     
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  3. Treble

    Treble Keyser Söze

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    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ #stalky #stalky :rolleyes:
     
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    <laugh>

    by the tears of Babylon :emoticon-0140-rofl:
     
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    Treble Keyser Söze

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    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ #stalky #stalky <laugh>
     
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    aberdude Well-Known Member

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    <laugh>

    I woke up and thought <laugh>
     
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  7. Treble

    Treble Keyser Söze

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    You woke up and the first thing you thought of was @Chief and me rinsing you on the PL board and came on here still filled with butthurt.

    You're so predictable you fruitcake. <laugh>
     
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    Must have been the pillow I use

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  9. Chief

    Chief Northern Simpleton
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    I love the idea that people can comment on a stadium they've never been anywhere near because they've read something somewhere.

    The stadium in itself is fine, the capacity is sufficient. The facilities do need an upgrade though, but this doesn't mean a completely new ground and rebuild at all. I think it should stay where it is.

    Someone needs to put some thought into how they can provide decent concourses, and serve a pint quickly. This element needs ripping out and redoing.

    A roof leak just means new cladding, that's all.
     
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    pieguts Mentor

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    This post is spot on for me around previous managers. Just about every manager you have appointed since Fergie retired came with some pedigree. Allof these was then backed with significant funds and top draw salaries.
    I struggle to understand why the Glazers are always at fault?
     
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    glazerfodder Well-Known Member

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    But the money people will look at the revenues that a new stadium can provide, concerts, American football and all that crap. I seem to recall that the team behind the Spurs new stadium were consulted and their view was that a new stadium can be built, critically, without disrupting matchdays at OT as is. That has to be the deciding factor.
     
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  12. Chief

    Chief Northern Simpleton
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    Moyes was given Maroune Fellaini on deadline day as his only signing when he'd lined up Ander Herrera, Luke Shaw and Toni Kroos.

    So no, he wasn't backed.
     
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  13. Treble

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    I think you need to read my later post in response to MarkBlow for the answer to this.

    The point I made in that is the responsibility for selecting and buying players has been dumped on the managers with little or no support or oversight by those who should be responsible for signings. And those buffoons who should be responsible have been put in place by the Glazers and over the past 10 years have been largely incompetent and moreso completely destructive. No well run football club approaches recruitment the way we do. From Liverpool to Brighton, you can see how it should be.

    The irony is they're not being backed, they're being made the scapegoats by the failings of the club.
     
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  14. Chief

    Chief Northern Simpleton
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    <ok>
     
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    Chief Northern Simpleton
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    I recall with Moyes that he wasn't given a second by some United media and support.

    "This team has just won the league, why aren't we immediately top", with no thought given to the fact it was an ageing squad that Ferguson had had to patch together because there was "no value in the market" which simply meant they had given him limited funds.

    Moyes was then given Fellaini and thrown under a bus.

    Anyone who understands United or football to any degree could see this. The centre halves, full backs, and the entire midfield needed replacing.

    Social media ****wits however, well they drive the narrative.

    Moyes wasn't given time. Or any backing. It's bollocks to suggest he was.

    He was then replaced by an absolute moron.
     
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    Treble Keyser Söze

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    Well he was replaced by Giggs for about 4 games :bandit: but I assume you mean LVG <laugh>
     
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    Chief Northern Simpleton
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    Of course.
     
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    Treble Keyser Söze

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    I still remember having running battles with UIR about the absolute dross LVG was having us do. And him claiming it was revolutionary and the future of football <laugh>
     
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    Big Ern Lord, Master, Guru & Emperor

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    TBH It wouldn't have mattered, there's a fairly vocal Moyes out brigade in our fan base, despite us having our 2nd best era, if we make Europe again this season it'll be our best. Personally, I'm enjoying the ride, we were 2nd division when I started watching, close to our worst season in history, didn't even make the play-offs, but I'm not blind to the validity of their argument. We were praised for our defensive play v Arsenal, but that was only because it was Arsenal. We play the same way against pretty much everyone, Moyes sets up not to lose, and hopes to pinch a goal for the win. That isn't the 'West Ham way', but neither is it United's. Even if he'd done well, there would still have been a decent sized portion that wanted him out.
     
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    Chief Northern Simpleton
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    People wanted him out immediately and just couldn't accept any change, and he did talk some ****e and make stupid statements.

    But he wasn't supported. By the Glazers etc.

    He just wasn't.
     
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