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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

    56 vote(s)
    47.9%
  2. Get out

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    52.1%
  1. West WindsR

    West WindsR Well-Known Member

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    I doubt I share many of Corbyn’s views but he was the lesser of two evils for me. It’s the first time I’ve voted Labour, a vote in theory to make myself worse off, and possibly the last. I still believe giving this Tory cabinet free reign to do as it pleases is a quite scary prospect for the most vulnerable in society. There are some truly hideous characters within it although I still think many are feigning it for popularity.

    I think some of what Corbyn was proposing would’ve benefitted a lot of people but he didn’t play the game. The vast majority of people in this country aren’t going to invest much time into their vote so personalities and slogans are essential. That’s not calling people thick although a political strategy should also take into account that much of the country is unbelievably thick. Cummings’ strategy was careful to take this into account.
     
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  2. rangercol

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    Labour thought it could win without the working class.
    This country was never going to elect a leader who hates his own country and openly supported Hamas, Hezbollah and the IRA.
    These Marxist extremists had little support outside the London bubble of champagne socialists and still they cannot work out how calling leavers thick racists and allowing their momentum thugs to run things would lead to anything other than this crushing defeat.
    Bolsover has never voted Tory, yet this is what they did when faced with Corbyn's vision.
    The working class have abandoned them and the Tories are now their natural vote.
    This Islington based protest group bares no comparison to the Labour movement that created the NHS, but are too deluded and extreme to care.
    Boris, imo is a liberal, one Nation Tory who will repay the north and everywhere else for their votes.
    If he doesn't, I'll be the first to say so.
    He's already planning to put into law his spending plans for the NHS.

    Labour in it's present form will never be elected.
     
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  3. Stroller

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    He's going to legislate for 40 new hospitals and 50,000 extra nurses? Excellent.
     
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    they have a way with words
    Labour MP shares message telling Rotherham sex abuse victims to ‘shut up for sake of diversity’
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    Naz Shah, a key ally of leader Jeremy Corbyn, retweeted and liked a post on the Twitter page by a parody account of left-wing writer Owen Jones.
    The post read: “Those abused girls in Rotherham and elsewhere just need to shut their mouths. For the good of diversity.”
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    Ms Shah, 43, later deleted the retweet and unliked the post and her spokesman claimed it was simply an “accident”.
    The Sun: “This was a genuine accident eight days ago that was rectified within minutes. To suggest otherwise is absolute nonsense
    He told The Sun: “This was a genuine accident eight days ago that was rectified within minutes. To suggest otherwise is absolute nonsense.
    “Her record speaks for itself. Naz has been working for over 20 years on the issues of child abuse, violence against women and grooming, which is well documented.”
    However, critics condemned Ms Shah, with Equality and Human Rights Commission chief executive Rebecca Hilsenrath saying she “should know better”.
    She said: “We need to keep the victims of these horrific crimes at the heart of the debate and always remember that diversity is not served by silence.”


    Ms Shah, a British-born Muslim, was last year suspended by Labour for anti-semitic posts.
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    In one post she compared Israeli policies to those of Hitler and wrote: “The Jews are rallying.”
    She later apologised for her posts, blaming her anti-semitism on “ignorance”.
    Sarah Champion was forced to resign
    for writing an article in The Sun about Pakistani sex gangs.'

    The Bradford West MP’s actions come a week after Labour frontbencher Sarah Champion was forced to resign for writing an article in The Sun about Pakistani sex gangs.
    Ms Shah described the article as “irresponsible”.
     
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  5. West WindsR

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    They “support” terrorists in much the same way the Tories have done. You’ve swallowed the media narrative hook, line and sinker. Well done I could have just read a Turkish post.

    He’s clearly not the leader enough people want and I sincerely hope they elect a more palatable character for next time but it’s no coincidence that the one Labour leader to win an election is the one who was loved by Murdoch. It was too left wing a manifesto for us but really wouldn’t have been considered so in other European countries. Corbyn’s idealist fault for not recognising that.

    I wouldn’t say they’ve abandoned the working class. They’ve tried to help the worst off and consigned them to five more years of food banks, **** schools and a declining NHS instead.
     
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    50,000 nurses under a vaguely “Australian points-based style”. Ok.

    40 hospitals but 39 are in ****ing Darlington and they’re actually branches of Wetherspoon’s.
     
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    Amazing how accident-prone these MPs are on social media...<laugh>
     
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    and where exactly will i post all my ****
     
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    Barnsley?...:grin:
     
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    Just scrolling through the #ResignCorbyn on Twatter and it's amazing the level of support he still has from the blind faithful, Labour are surely set for oblivion with the current regime dictating policy. Whoever is elected will be Corbyn in a skirt...
     
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    Did you know that the idea of creating a national health service was originally floated by a Tory?
     
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    Blasphemy...<laugh>
     
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    And shot down by the rest of them.

    The idea that the NHS could have been created by a Tory government is laughable.
     
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    I like a good chortle.

    Thing is, even a Tory likes the idea of health care that’s free at the point of use. The only difference is that they don’t care if it’s provision is via a privately run concern or a one owned by the State.

    Ultimately, who cares?

    The challenge, of course, is always to ensure that the health care is the best and most timely it can possibly be. Therein lies the rub.

    PS Thanks for the confirmation:)
     
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    Politics what a boring article
     
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    This seems to corroborate your viewpoint.

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  18. rangercol

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    And there we have it.
    You've made my point perfectly.
    Patronising and completely sure you're right.
    I don't need to fall for media lies to know that the people you support are supporters of enemies of my country. Or are you saying that's all fake news?
    I'm willing to acknowledge that the Tories and Boris have faults.
    You and others just get all patronising and bury your heads in the sand whilst so many respected Labour people explain that the party has moved to unacceptable depths of ****.
    You carry on thinking you're right while at the same time witnessing a cataclysmic defeat for your Marxist mates.

    We need to move on.
    You've completely lost the argument.

    No doubt you'll come back with more offensive, childish sarcasm.

    This thread has served its purpose.
     
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  19. West WindsR

    West WindsR Well-Known Member

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    Did you even read the post before replying to it?
     
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    rangercol Well-Known Member

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    And therein lies your problem .
    Your inability to ever see anyone else's world view, other than your skewed version means you'll forever be on the losing side.
    All left leaning people seem to be the same.

    It's really sad.
     
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