Off Topic The Politics Thread

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

    56 vote(s)
    47.9%
  2. Get out

    61 vote(s)
    52.1%
  1. Willhoops

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    Matt Hancock has been retained as Health Secretary. Which means, based on the way the government calculates NHS staffing numbers, we now have a total of 2 Health Secretaries.
     
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    That's a rather conservative estimate...

    OK I'll get me coat...
     
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    Couldn't agree more. This idea that people aren't allowed to express their own, non-violent, opinions, is extremely dangerous. The police need to walk away from this precipice and students need to stop no-platforming people who, with good faith and intent, just hold a different opinion to their own
     
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    On a two-faced basis, if Michael Gove was Health Secretary, there'd be four of them
     
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    The tragic thing is stupid ****s will swallow this without thinking for a second to critique it. Always the victim.
     
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    The EU have set out their opening negotiating position which is that they want to make the UK a vassal state. They want to control our laws, standards, prevent subsidies etc and have all this overseen by their own court, the ECJ. Yet they have no sought these from their deals with, say, Japan or Canada.

    Clearly this isn't acceptable, but the fact is, the EU are approaching things on a "if you don't ask, you don't get" basis. Boris has set out his stall for a Canada style free trade agreement.

    Lots of bullshit and brinkmanship at this stage. Hopefully sense will be talked when negotiations take place
     
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    It’ll be fine once they realise how much we spend on cars and prosecco.
     
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    They'll take their sales to the UK seriously. Economically, the Eurozone is in a bad place at the moment
     
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    Difficult to justify agreeing to EU demands that we adhere to many of the rules which contributed to us leaving, they're not in the box seat anymore especially with the major countries in the EU economically challenged at present...
     
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    Now Mark Carney sees a silver lining to Brexit
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    • Bank of England’s Mark Carney says infrastructure investment needed to boost growth

      “In an environment where everything is getting a fresh look, it’s fertile ground for taking a step back and making bigger changes than otherwise might have been made,” he told Reuters.

      Following his election win, Prime Minister Boris Johnson has signalled that he wants regions where growth is further behind London to “level up”.



      This week Johnson gave the green light to HS2 which is likely to cost up to £100bn.

      And Carney said such pronouncements suggest the government is seeking to bolster the UK economy outside of the EU.

      “It’s early days but there are several initiatives – the Budget will be telling – that suggest that some of these opportunities are being grasped,” Carney said.

      The new chancellor Rishi Sunak has just three weeks to complete the 11 March Budget after the shock resignation of Sajid Javid.

      It is unclear whether the Treasury will keep Javid’s fiscal rules to allow an extra £22bn public sector net investment a year.

      Following the referendum, Carney, who will leave the BoE after seven years next month, had warned that Britain’s economy was likely to suffer as a result of Brexit.




      Last year he warned that the UK would be hit by an “instantaneous” economic shockwave if Britain did not strike a deal with the EU.

      He said that there would not only be disruption at Britain’s borders, but such a situation would render a “substantial number” of businesses “no longer economic”.

      And the Bank warned last October: “In a disorderly Brexit, demand for UK assets could be expected to fall sharply, depreciating sterling and tightening financial conditions for UK households and businesses through adjustments in equity prices and corporate and bank funding costs.”

      Despite these warnings Carney told Reuters Brexit could prove to be a “conceptual positive”.

      “It is a major reordering of our relationship not just with the European Union but our trading relationships with the rest of the world and it is prompting a reassessment of economic policy, structural economic policy in the country,” he said.

      Read more: BoE governor Mark Carney to advise PM on climate change

      Carney accepted the so-called Boris bounce which has seen increased business optimism, particularly in the property and construction sectors.

      “We are already seeing a rebound in confidence, business confidence and to some extent a firming of consumer confidence,” the governor told Reuters.

      Carney has accepted a post as the Prime Minister’s climate change adviser ahead of a UN climate change summit, COP26, in November.
     
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    Here’s the man who’s likely to be the next leader of Her Majesty’s Opposition & indeed the decimated Labour Party.

    He’s got about as much chance of becoming PM & wining an election, as he has writing ‘important’ words on ‘important’ documents using a pen with the lid on.

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    Surely you don’t follow that nonce.
     
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    I don't follow anyone on twitter
     
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    Portugal airports to introduce separate passport lanes for Britons after Brexit
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    Portugal has announced plans to open separate customs lanes for British tourists at its airports after the UK leaves the European Union, as it seeks to prevent a post-Brexit slump in its tourism industry.

    Prime Minister Antonio Costa said the new lanes would be opened at Faro airport in the Algarve and Funchal airport on the island of Madeira — both popular destinations for British holidaymakers.


    The lanes for UK nationals will be similar to those provided to tourists from the EU, he said.

    British holidaymakers are important to Portugal as they are the biggest group of tourists to the country. However, numbers have dipped recently as the pound has fallen against the euro amid concerns over Brexit.

    Portuguese Economy Minister Pedro Siza Vieira also sought to ease Britons’ worries this week, saying they wouldn’t need a visa even in the event of a no-deal Brexit.

    He also said British citizens living in Portugal would retain all their rights after the UK leaves the EU, including access to healthcare.


    “We are ready to do this unilaterally,” he told Reuters, adding that he hoped the UK would do the same for Portuguese people.

    Portugal and Britain are the world’s oldest allies, having forged relations through a 1386 treaty.
     
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