Off Topic The Politics Thread

It's incredibly naive to suggest that Stonewall isn't intrinsically connected to the Rainbow Movement. Stonewall is everywhere in LGBTQ+ and it blackmails employers into making partice changes it demands. In the civil service, anyone not wearing a rainbow lanyard can be labelled "Terf". It's highly divisive. The Civil Service needs to be non-political

 

I worked for about as ‘woke’ a business as one could wish to find - LGBT society, sponsoring Pride, putting a rainbow on the products to celebrate national anal day or some nonsense - and never once got pressured into participating in any of it nor labelled anything for not doing so so I’m thinking this is a bit far fetched.

 

Gays under the bed.

 

You're getting incredibly snowflakey about this. When you mentioned rainbow, Stonewall was the last thing on my mind. To me, it's for those who wish to ahow there support for inclusion.

All my tools are covered in blue and white electrical tape to show my support for QPR, but I don't have an outward agenda towards clubs of other colours, and I couldn't give two ****s what colour someone elses tools or lanyards are. This is truly a non-issue that you've created in your own head - with a bit of prompting from some minister looking to gain a few headlines

 

The burning issue is not gay, but trans. If private companies want to go to the expense of promoting it, and suffer the possible division, that's up to them. Apart from the political independence issue, taxpayers should not have to fund unnecessary such projects by civil servants.

 

Do rainbow lanyards cost more than red, white and blue ones then?

 

If Stonewall is the last thing on your mind when the Rainbow Movement is mentioned, then you clearly don't know much about Stonewall, and that's not my problem. Stonewall has installed itself into industry generally, although in view of its extreme views (mostly re trans), companies are gradually moving away from it. As I say, we're talking about the civil service here, which has to be seen as non-political.

 

Civil servants will be restricted to wearing lanyards with their photo id

 

Tjey're obviously not that all-encompassing else I'd know more about it. I only know of them because you keep banging on about it on here.

My wife deals with trans patients every day, yet she never mentions Stonewall.

 

What colour though?

 

Here's a bit about them, from a left-wing newspaper:

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/jun/05/stonewall-trans-debate-toxic-gender-identity

 

Can you give me one instance where Stonewall has had a direct impact on your life?

 

I lost 5 minutes reading the last 10 posts which included Stonewall. Does that count?

 

I saw a stonewall penalty the other day that wasn't given.

 

Joey Barton wore rainbow laces once.

 

That’s the test, is it? So, for example, I cannot express a view on those who wish to extend abortion to full term, because I’m not affected? The Cass Report makes major recommendations on the use of puberty blockers on children, but I’d best not read them, because it doesn’t affect me?

 

Who wishes to extend abortion to the full term?

Though there is a strong case for post natal abortion in some instances.

 

The execrable Stella Creasy MP has canvassed it recently

 

She proposed decriminalising to 24 weeks. Full term is 40 weeks.

 

She has been working with Diana Johnson of Labour who is proposing decriminalising all abortion.See Guardian 8th April